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Father to fight daughter's late night parking ticket

By Herald Express  |  Posted: November 15, 2012

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A FATHER is challenging a parking ticket issued in a deserted car park at midnight.

Paignton student Rebecca Moody parked at the Bridge retail car park at Lowes Bridge, Torquay, while she walked to the neighbouring McDonalds.

Her father, Anthony Moody, (pictured) was stunned when she told him of a £60 fine issued, photos supposedly showing the car parked breaking the rules.

But it was so dark the images were completely black.

Mr Moody said: "I thought it was a prank at first because the pictures showed nothing at all.

"I think the fine amounts to entrapment.

"When it is dark and the car park is deserted with no barriers to get in, how are drivers supposed to know that they can't park there.

"I'll fight this to the end and go to court if I have to."

The car park is operated by private firm Premier Park Ltd.

The family have appealed the fine, which has now risen to £120 and the case has been forwarded to a debt collection agency.

A spokesman for Premier Parking said: "This private road has a number of lampposts in operation which clearly illuminate the entrances and signs to the retail park and the separate McDonalds parking areas.

"The driver of this vehicle, in their appeal, advised they were using the McDonalds, however they were parked in a totally separate area.

"Parking is not allowed in this separate area as there have previously been large gatherings of vehicles outside of retail park store hours, which, in some instances, has led to anti-social behaviour and damage to our clients property.

"We would make the point that this is a well signed area with a clearly defined, well lit approach and entrance, with large retail units on the site and it is unlikely these retail units would be open or appear to be open between 23.55 and 00.26 when the vehicle was parked.

"We would further advise the onus is on the driver of a vehicle to ascertain the parking terms and conditions on any area they are intending to enter or park on whether it be public or private land.

"If they are unable to do this it is always advisable not to park."

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  • Grapenut  |  December 12 2012, 5:00PM

    Re: Father to fight daughter's late-night parking ticket. Clearly private parking firms need to be more accountable for their actions. This is yet another example of a private parking firm getting heavy, and expecting the public to pay the fine without question. In this particular instance, the photographic evidence that's been offered seems extremely flimsy. At the same time, you do need to question why the Paignton student parked at the private firm's car park, rather than at the McDonalds.

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  • gibbos_vr6  |  December 12 2012, 11:43AM

    it is not any form of anpr camera ( number plate recognition camera) it is a couple of girls or one guy and one girl with a digital camera sat in either a silver fiesta or a black toyota yaris ( i think) which is why the pictures are so bad ive had one of these letters and then several threatening letters but as mentioned above i have ignored the lot of them you could see nothing in the picture what so ever apart from the reflection of light from the main road in the headlights. they write your registration down which is how they get it then buy the information of who you are and your address. Anyway they say the area was well lit in they're statement but surely if it was well lit you would be able to see the pictures clearly not just black. Just ignore them they do go away

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  • MPstink1  |  December 11 2012, 11:41PM

    Moody Muppet.

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  • Tony248  |  December 11 2012, 10:52AM

    I have news for you. There is no need whatever to "fight" it because this "ticket" has no legal validity WHATSOEVER. It is not a Council ticket, it is issued by a private company called Premier Park, which although it tries to persuade you otherwise, has absolutely no right to fine anyone at all. They are simply money-grubbing parasites trying to act as if they were official, but have no more "officialism" than you or I. They pass the (non) debt to a couple of shady agencies- called Debt Recovery Plus, and Zenith Collections- who, if you read the letters carefully, are actually one and the same companies trying to fool you into thinking there are two of them. After sending a total of five or six threatening pieces of junk mail, they will then assume that you realise they are talking hot air and give up. They NEVER EVER take the matter to court (despite their threats) because they realise full well it's a try-on and they don't actually have a leg to stand on. So relax, buddy, they WILL simply go away if you ignore them. P.S. Do not ignore a ticket issued by a Council. Those CAN be enforced if you don't deal with them.

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  • robocop1982  |  November 19 2012, 4:53PM

    he's playing right into their hands. BY reacting this way and challenging them this only further empowers the rulers. THe reason they have these procedures in place for making complaints is to waste people's time further and increase power manipulation. People that react like this only make the rulers stronger. IF you stay nice and quiet and stealth like nobody will even know anything about it. you're not going to lose, you see my point. there is nothing to lose or gain in this game. in all fairness though the uk authority is way over the top at the moment in general. YOU have no individual liberty in this country like you do in north america. thats the difference that makes north america great compared to uk.

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  • reiwruwiou  |  November 19 2012, 4:39PM

    Agree with what theyellows says... mostly... If you park in a place with big signs saying "don't park here" then expect a ticket, don't go whining to the local rag for sympathy. As for providing an area for young people to show off their cars.. why? When bikers wanted to "show off" their bikes, they arranged with the council to do it on Paignton sea front, raising money for charity at the same time. Could someone from the "Modified car" community not do the same? If the Police turned up with a few fancy pursuit vehicles I'm sure it would not only be of interest but may even help to build a few bridges, and could even be a tourist attraction.

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  • theyellows  |  November 18 2012, 5:16PM

    the simple fact is as a DRIVER of the viechle you are required by law to read the roads /car parks that you park in and if the area is a no parking zone as this is and has been for some time now you just don't park there. this area is well lit up at night and the signs on the entrance to the car park state you cannot park there at night, this is all due to the amount of young people gathering there at night causing a disturbance to people whom live on the road and i do know what im talking about being a resident of Hele road the noise of the cars and people can be distubing to say the least. lastly i think its about time the council allocated a safe place for young people to gather to show of there cars which they have worked hard to pay for .

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  • Treleaven1  |  November 18 2012, 12:50PM

    We will see more of this I suspect as it is the result of the recent clamping ban, so although those vile, often crooked, cowboy clamping companies can no longer loiter around private car parks at all hours of the day and night waiting to clamp unsuspecting motorists' cars they can now issue these tickets instead. Premier Park was one of these clamping companies, whether they operated within or without the law I don't know but if you Google their name there is page after page on them with some shocking stories of cars being clamped with people still in them and the engine runnig an so.

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  • Cweed  |  November 18 2012, 10:43AM

    If you don't want people parking in your car park when the shops are closed then invest in some lockable barriers or gates to stop them. Do they really employ someone to sit there and issue tickets to anyone who happens to stop there?

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  • Cruey  |  November 18 2012, 12:11AM

    Just like to ask who these monsters work for . is it the stores that are on this site .. if so I think they would be better having a little give and take at that time of night .......... for goodness sake what is it coming to ........ greed greed greed ...... not like she was stopping anyone else from shopping there

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